{"id":3099,"date":"2021-04-26T09:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-04-26T07:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/eldar.cz\/tompatrick\/?p=3099"},"modified":"2021-04-02T16:53:52","modified_gmt":"2021-04-02T14:53:52","slug":"rozhovor-toma-patricka-s-autorem-dane-basnicke-sbirky-vetrne-mlyny-ona-a-on","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eldar.cz\/tompatrick\/martin-jabkenic-sbirka-nasni-zaverecny-epilog\/rozhovor-toma-patricka-s-autorem-dane-basnicke-sbirky-vetrne-mlyny-ona-a-on","title":{"rendered":"Rozhovor Toma Patricka s autorem dan\u00e9 b\u00e1snick\u00e9 sb\u00edrky &#8211; V\u011btrn\u00e9 ml\u00fdny &#8211; Ona a On"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fcbkbttn_buttons_block\" id=\"fcbkbttn_left\"><div class=\"fcbkbttn_button\">\n                            <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/tom.patrick.509\" target=\"_blank\">\n                                <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/eldar.cz\/tompatrick\/wp-content\/plugins\/facebook-button-plugin\/images\/large-facebook-ico.png\" alt=\"Fb-Button\" \/>\n                            <\/a>\n                        <\/div><div class=\"fcbkbttn_like fcbkbttn_large_button\"><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/eldar.cz\/tompatrick\/martin-jabkenic-sbirka-nasni-zaverecny-epilog\/rozhovor-toma-patricka-s-autorem-dane-basnicke-sbirky-vetrne-mlyny-ona-a-on\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\" layout=\"standard\"  width=\"225px\" size=\"large\"><\/fb:like><\/div><div class=\"fb-share-button fcbkbttn_large_button \" data-href=\"https:\/\/eldar.cz\/tompatrick\/martin-jabkenic-sbirka-nasni-zaverecny-epilog\/rozhovor-toma-patricka-s-autorem-dane-basnicke-sbirky-vetrne-mlyny-ona-a-on\" data-type=\"button_count\" data-size=\"large\"><\/div><\/div><p><b>V\u011btrn\u00e9 ml\u00fdny<\/b><\/p>\n<p>*N\u00e1hle se okenn\u00ed z\u00e1clona zvedne, to jak ji v\u00edtr zven\u010d\u00ed jemn\u011b ofoukne. V\u011btrn\u00fd v\u00e1nek je to na dech moc p\u0159\u00edjemn\u00fd. Stejn\u011b jako ten v n\u00e1sledn\u00e9 b\u00e1sni, kde rozezn\u00edv\u00e1 v\u011btrn\u00e9 ml\u00fdny, pod nimi\u017e sed\u00e1v\u00e1 d\u00edvka s nitern\u00ed kn\u00ed\u017ekou a sn\u00ed o dalek\u00fdch kraj\u00edch.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201ePo del\u0161\u00ed dob\u011b pozitivn\u011b lad\u011bn\u00fd p\u0159\u00edb\u011bh, kter\u00fd navazuje na mal\u00ed\u0159\u016fv poetick\u00fd ,Obraz,\u00b4\u201c p\u0159edb\u00edh\u00e1 m\u011b s odpov\u011bd\u00ed tentokr\u00e1t Martin. \u201eD\u016fkaz, \u017ee nejsem tak \u0161patn\u00fdm, zvrhl\u00fdm, nep\u0159ej\u00edc\u00edm \u010dlov\u00ed\u010dkem, jak pro n\u011bkoho v\u00fdhradn\u011b vypl\u00fdv\u00e1 z m\u00e9 dosavadn\u00ed tvorby.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eZast\u00e1v\u00e1m stejn\u00fd n\u00e1zor, tedy ohledn\u011b toho v\u00e1mi prvn\u011b jmenovan\u00e9ho. Dle m\u00e9ho \u00fasudku jste o on\u00e9 d\u00edvce sm\u00fd\u0161lel bez sebemen\u0161\u00ed p\u0159etv\u00e1\u0159ky.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eD\u011bkuji. A rovn\u011b\u017e se nem\u00fdl\u00edte v tom,\u201c za\u010dne se vyjad\u0159ovat Martin, ani\u017e bych dan\u00e9 te\u010f vyslovil j\u00e1 osobn\u011b nahlas, \u201e\u017ee bych se r\u00e1d s n\u00ed osobn\u011b shledal a p\u0159i t\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitosti prohodil i p\u00e1r v\u0159el\u00fdch slov.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eA o \u010dem byste si pov\u00eddali?\u201c zaj\u00edm\u00e1 m\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eV\u00fdb\u011br bych nechal \u010dist\u011b na n\u00ed,\u201c p\u0159ipou\u0161t\u00ed Martin. \u201eV\u00edte,\u201c o\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 op\u011btovn\u011b zasn\u011bn\u011b, \u201er\u00e1d bych se nechal p\u0159ekvapit t\u00edm, co by mi n\u00e1sledn\u011b ta d\u00edvka za\u010dala sd\u011blovat. Prost\u011b bych j\u00ed ponechal jistou volnost. Jen by musela spl\u0148ovat jednu d\u016fle\u017eitou podm\u00ednku.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eJakou konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed?\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eNesm\u011bla by b\u00fdt agresivn\u00ed, vulg\u00e1rn\u00ed a ubli\u017eovat druh\u00fdm \u2013 b\u00fdt prost\u011b p\u0159\u00e1telsk\u00e1, mil\u00e1 a m\u00edt pro m\u011b pochopen\u00ed.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eAno, s t\u00edm souhlas\u00edm. Tak\u00e9 bych to cht\u011bl tak m\u00edt.\u201c<\/p>\n<p><b>Ve vybran\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti<\/b><\/p>\n<p>*\u201eLe\u010d n\u011bkdy se zkr\u00e1tka jedinci nepo\u0161t\u011bst\u00ed b\u00fdt p\u0159\u00edtomen ve spole\u010dnosti lid\u00ed, co zrovna opl\u00fdvaj\u00ed dobrotou a porozum\u011bn\u00edm,\u201c nar\u00e1\u017e\u00ed ve sv\u00e9 dal\u0161\u00ed b\u00e1sni na nemilou realitu Martin a pokra\u010duje: \u201eN\u011bco podobn\u00e9ho se mi taky stalo, i kdy\u017e se to p\u0159\u00edmo net\u00fdkalo \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9ho podniku. Tehdy jsem na tom nebyl po psychick\u00e9 str\u00e1nce zrovna nejl\u00edp, nic mi ne\u0161lo a \u0161el jsem z bl\u00e1ta p\u0159\u00edmo do lou\u017ee. Pak jsem v novin\u00e1ch narazil na \u010dl\u00e1nek, jen\u017e nab\u00edzel mo\u017en\u00e9 v\u00fdchodisko z bezv\u00fdchodn\u00e9 situace a to na z\u00e1klad\u011b magie a tarotu. Tak jsem na to odpov\u011bd\u011bl a do t\u00fddne mi p\u0159i\u0161el uv\u00edtac\u00ed dopis, a co po mn\u011b hned necht\u011bli: vedle dal\u0161\u00edch osobn\u00edch \u00fadaj\u016f i nemal\u00e9 pen\u00edze \u2013 pr\u00fd pouze jen za sekretari\u00e1t toho tarot\u00e1\u0159e.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eNo a vy jste mu je nakonec poslal?\u201c dycht\u00edm doslova po odpov\u011bdi.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eNe,\u201c odpov\u00edd\u00e1 p\u0159ekvapiv\u011b takto stroze Martin, \u201eale n\u011bkolik m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f mi od toho ,dobrod\u011bje\u00b4 pak p\u0159ich\u00e1zely dopisy dal\u0161\u00ed a dal\u0161\u00ed. Jasn\u00e1 zn\u00e1mka podvodu a tak\u00e9 zp\u016fsob, jak ze zoufal\u00fdch jedinc\u016f ud\u011blat je\u0161t\u011b zoufalej\u0161\u00ed.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eTak to v\u00e1s chv\u00e1l\u00edm, tedy za ten v\u00e1\u0161 zcela spr\u00e1vn\u00fd \u00fasudek.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eAno, tak jako j\u00e1 by se m\u011bl zachovat ka\u017ed\u00fd jin\u00fd&#8230; prost\u011b v \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b na n\u011bco podobn\u00e9ho nikdy NEREAGOVAT!\u201c<\/p>\n<p><b>Pr\u00e1zdniny<\/b><\/p>\n<p>*\u201eNaprosto s v\u00e1mi souhlas\u00edm, to u\u017e je mnohem lep\u0161\u00ed vyr\u00e1\u017eet na v\u00fdlety s prov\u011b\u0159en\u00fdmi p\u0159\u00e1teli, u nich\u017e je jistota, \u017ee z jejich strany \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 podobn\u00e9 podlosti nehroz\u00ed.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eTo\u0165 men\u0161\u00ed vzpom\u00ednka na m\u00e1 studentsk\u00e1 l\u00e9ta. I kdy\u017e jsem si na \u0161kole, jak jsem ji\u017e uvedl p\u0159edt\u00edm, pro\u017eil to sv\u00e9 mu\u010div\u00e9, na\u0161ly se tam i b\u00e1je\u010dn\u00e9 okam\u017eiky, to kdy\u017e jsme se t\u0159\u00eddou na konci \u0161koln\u00edho roku vyrazili na v\u00edkendov\u00fd pobyt. Byla to opravdu jedna velk\u00e1 z\u00e1bava a j\u00e1 v\u017edy byl r\u00e1d, \u017ee jsem se toho mohl z\u00fa\u010dastnit. Nav\u00edc, mobily, soci\u00e1ln\u00ed s\u00edt\u011b a v\u0161emo\u017en\u00e9 technologick\u00e9 klony tenkr\u00e1t v\u016fbec je\u0161t\u011b neexistovaly \u2013 tedy v takov\u00e9 m\u00ed\u0159e, jako tomu je dneska \u2013 a nikomu to v\u016fbec nevadilo. O\u010dn\u00ed kontakt mluvil prost\u011b za v\u0161e.\u201c A z\u00e1v\u011brem si Martin typicky povzdechne: \u201eJo j\u00f3, zlat\u00fd devades\u00e1tky &#8211; \u010dlov\u011bk m\u011bl pocit, \u017ee \u017eije v mnohem klidn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed dob\u011b. Bohu\u017eel se to u\u017e ned\u00e1 vr\u00e1tit zp\u00e1tky.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*A mn\u011b pak nezb\u00fdv\u00e1 ne\u017e souhlasn\u011b p\u0159itakat.<\/p>\n<p><b>D\u0159ev\u011bn\u00e1 so\u0161ka<\/b><\/p>\n<p>*\u201eTo v b\u00e1sni n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00ed jsem se vydal do je\u0161t\u011b daleko vzd\u00e1len\u011bj\u0161\u00ed doby, a\u017e do devaten\u00e1ct\u00e9ho stolet\u00ed, a tak trochu v\u00edce si jej pro sebe zidealizoval,\u201c uj\u00edm\u00e1 se Martin znovu slova. \u201eZvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed, jak je v\u0161e zahalen\u00e9 v\u00fdhradn\u011b smutkem a katastrofami, bez rozd\u00edlu, jestli \u010dlov\u011bk vezme v potaz jak dobu sou\u010dasnou, tak pr\u00e1v\u011b i tu minulou. A \u010d\u00edm jde hloub\u011bji, tak ani ve zbytku t\u011bch star\u0161\u00edch stolet\u00ed to nen\u00ed o nic lep\u0161\u00ed.\u201c Po pou\u010dn\u00e9m proslovu tradi\u010dn\u00ed povzdech na z\u00e1v\u011br.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eA tak jste dan\u00e9 prom\u00edtl i do \u017eivota Josefa a Laury, av\u0161ak pro vlastn\u00ed \u00fat\u011bchu jste jim a jejich rodin\u00e1m dop\u0159\u00e1l v\u011b\u010dn\u00e9 \u0161t\u011bst\u00ed, klid a harmonii, tak, jak by to dle v\u00e1s m\u011blo b\u00fdt na na\u0161\u00ed Zemi automaticky u v\u0161ech jej\u00edch sou\u010dasn\u00fdch jako\u017eto i pr\u00e1v\u011b t\u011bch minul\u00fdch obyvatel,\u201c dovoluji si i j\u00e1 znovu takto zafilozofovat, \u010deho\u017e si m\u016fj hostitel op\u011btovn\u011b velice cen\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eOp\u011bt p\u0159esn\u011b tak a ne jinak. Prost\u011b jsem si to, pota\u017emo devaten\u00e1ct\u00e9 stolet\u00ed, pro sebe poeticky zkr\u00e1\u0161lil, kdy\u017e text tu mo\u017enost m\u00e1 a realita ne,\u201c uv\u00e1d\u00ed na pravou m\u00edru Martin. \u201eNa druhou stranu,\u201c za\u010dne op\u011btovn\u011b tak trochu pop\u00edrat sv\u00e1 pozitivn\u011b lad\u011bn\u00e1 slova, \u201ena druhou stranu, to zidealizovan\u00e9 v jednom kuse dokola p\u0159em\u00edlat v hlav\u011b, to taky psychice moc nep\u0159id\u00e1.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eJak si dan\u00e9 m\u00e1m te\u010f vysv\u011btlit?\u201c uv\u00e1d\u00edm rovn\u011b\u017e celkem ji\u017e zaveden\u00fd dotaz.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eProst\u011b, i kdy\u017e se b\u00e1sn\u00edk z n\u011b\u010deho vyp\u00ed\u0161e na pap\u00edr a z p\u016fvodn\u011b re\u00e1ln\u00e9ho tragick\u00e9ho p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhu si tak pro sebe ud\u011bl\u00e1 jeden kr\u00e1sn\u011b pozitivn\u00ed nere\u00e1ln\u00fd, tak kdy\u017e si ho uvnit\u0159 sebe sama potom dokola za\u010dne neust\u00e1le p\u0159ehr\u00e1vat, tak na n\u011bj postupem \u010dasu za\u010dne b\u00fdt mnohdy bohu\u017eel taky alergick\u00fd, proto\u017ee v n\u011bm nem\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt p\u0159\u00edtomen skute\u010dn\u011b fyzicky. Proto t\u0159ikr\u00e1t hur\u00e1 a sl\u00e1va vonn\u00fdm a technick\u00fdm prost\u0159edk\u016fm, je\u017e uvol\u0148uj\u00ed mysl \u010dlov\u011bka tak, \u017ee si v\u0161e m\u016f\u017ee pro\u017e\u00edt ve sv\u00e9m vlastn\u00edm \u017eiv\u00e9m t\u0159i d\u00e9!\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*T\u00edm samoz\u0159ejm\u011b nen\u00ed m\u00edn\u011bno nic men\u0161\u00edho ne\u017e takzvan\u00e9 ALMANY \u2013 to\u0165 ona technick\u00e1 \u010d\u00e1st \u2013 a L\u00c9KORINKY \u2013 to\u0165 ona \u010d\u00e1st vonn\u00e1 &#8211; d\u00edky nim\u017e jsou &#8211; jak Kataln\u00e1 Mochna tak i Polansk\u00fd Chv\u00e1r \u2013 st\u00e1le v\u00edce zn\u00e1my i za hranicemi \u010cech.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eProst\u011b, celosv\u011btov\u00fd m\u00edr na Zemi nikdy nenastane, jak poznamenala jist\u00e1 Sylvie, ale za pomoc\u00ed technick\u00e9ho pokroku je mo\u017en\u00e9 alespo\u0148 doc\u00edlit toho, aby \u010dlov\u011bk uvnit\u0159 sebe pomysln\u011b nestr\u00e1dal a nebyl zahlcen a terorizov\u00e1n p\u0159ehr\u0161lem vlastn\u00edch nesplniteln\u00fdch p\u0159\u00e1n\u00ed,\u201c uzav\u00edr\u00e1 v\u0161e zaveden\u00fdm proslovem Martin, podobn\u011b jako ti, co zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00e9 osobn\u011b m\u011bli mo\u017enost vyzkou\u0161et.\u201c<\/p>\n<p><b>\u017deny stvo\u0159itelky a jin\u00e1 sou\u010dasn\u00e1 jako\u017eto i ta minul\u00e1 pozemsk\u00e1 \u00faskal\u00ed<\/b><\/p>\n<p>*\u201ePozemsk\u00e1 situace &#8211; pro v\u0161e \u017eiv\u00e9 &#8211; je dle v\u00e1s v\u0161ak p\u0159eci jen dosti neut\u011b\u0161iteln\u00e1 a\u017e alarmuj\u00edc\u00ed, kdy\u017e v n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00ed b\u00e1sni uv\u00e1d\u00edte, \u017ee dan\u00e9 nikdy nem\u011blo spat\u0159it sv\u011btlo sv\u011bta.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eOp\u011bt, nechci t\u00edm n\u011bkoho popuzovat, ale pozemsk\u00e9 d\u011bjiny prost\u011b jednozna\u010dn\u011b mluv\u00ed za v\u0161e. Nebudu to ji\u017e bl\u00ed\u017ee rozeb\u00edrat, v\u0161e podstatn\u00e9 jsem shrnul ve sv\u00fdch p\u0159ede\u0161l\u00fdch textech, nejenom tedy v tomto jedin\u00e9m. Prost\u011b na to m\u00e1 vliv v\u0161e, co se d\u011blo a d\u011bje ve sv\u011bt\u011b, tedy to \u0161patn\u00e9.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201ePromi\u0148te, ale spousta va\u0161ich potenci\u00e1ln\u00edch \u010dten\u00e1\u0159\u016f bude hned nam\u00edtat, \u017ee v \u017eivot\u011b jsou i kr\u00e1sn\u00e9 okam\u017eiky,\u201c oponuji a asi v tom te\u010f nebudu s\u00e1m.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eRozum\u00edm,\u201c p\u0159ipou\u0161t\u00ed sice Martin, vz\u00e1p\u011bt\u00ed v\u0161ak v\u0161e vyvrac\u00ed slovy: \u201eAle toho negativn\u00edho je prost\u011b v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed p\u0159ehr\u0161el.\u201c A tradi\u010dn\u00ed povzdech na z\u00e1v\u011br.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eTak to je mi l\u00edto,\u201c poznamen\u00e1v\u00e1m skromn\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>*P\u0159esto, Martin v sob\u011b c\u00edt\u00ed jistou povinnost ospravedlnit se a je\u0161t\u011b naposled se k dan\u00e9 b\u00e1sni vyjad\u0159uje: Je si zcela v\u011bdom toho, \u017ee pokud nyn\u00ed n\u011b\u017en\u00e9 pohlav\u00ed \u010dte tyto \u0159\u00e1dky (jako\u017eto p\u0159edt\u00edm \u010detlo i b\u00e1se\u0148 jako takovou), asi z toho p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 nad\u0161eno nen\u00ed. O tom \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1. Martin se p\u0159esto c\u00edt\u00ed nevinn\u00fd. Za \u017eivot si pro\u017eil sv\u00e9 a mnoh\u00e9 z b\u00e1sn\u00ed psal v dob\u011b, kdy na tom s\u00e1m nebyl dob\u0159e. Nav\u00edc, pr\u00e1v\u011b ono n\u011b\u017en\u00e9 pohlav\u00ed Martinovi p\u0159id\u011blalo nejednu obt\u00ed\u017e, a sv\u011bt jako takov\u00fd je v mnoh\u00e9m p\u0159esn\u011b takov\u00fd, jak jej on s\u00e1m vystihl. A j\u00e1 s\u00e1m k tomu rovn\u011b\u017e mus\u00edm p\u0159idat jedno podstatn\u00e9 a sice to, \u017ee hovor mezi mnou a hostitelem nen\u00ed nijak pozm\u011b\u0148ov\u00e1n, to znamen\u00e1, \u017ee jej zde zaznamen\u00e1v\u00e1m tak, jak pr\u00e1v\u011b prob\u00edh\u00e1, tak\u017ee co se pr\u00e1v\u011b \u0159ekne, to se v n\u011bm taky objev\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p><b>D\u00e1ma v posmrtn\u00e9m<\/b><\/p>\n<p>*Obdobn\u011b se to m\u00e1 i s b\u00e1sn\u00ed n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00ed, v n\u00ed\u017e se jist\u00e1 nejmenovan\u00e1 \u017eena mst\u00ed mafi\u00e1nsk\u00e9 rodin\u011b. I k tomuto se Martin vyjad\u0159uje ob\u0161\u00edrn\u011b: \u201eOp\u011btovn\u011b jsem p\u0159i psan\u00ed podlehl inspiraci a jist\u00e9 kreativit\u011b. Mo\u017en\u00e1 i toto lze pova\u017eovat za kontroverzn\u00ed, jen\u017ee pokud by m\u011bla existovat skute\u010dn\u00e1 spravedlnost, m\u011bli by se pak k\u00e1t i jin\u00ed \u2013 pr\u00e1v\u011b ti, co si v n\u00e1sil\u00ed p\u0159\u00edmo libuj\u00ed a jsou za to oslavov\u00e1ni jak fanou\u0161ky tak kritiky, jen\u017e se jim ne\u0161t\u00edt\u00ed za ,ten mord\u00b4 d\u00e1t nejedno ocen\u011bn\u00ed, a producenti, nat\u011b\u0161eni z neb\u00fdval\u00e9ho komer\u010dn\u00edho \u00fasp\u011bchu, z toho maj\u00ed zase nemal\u00e9 pen\u00edze. Tak\u017ee pokud u\u017e do m\u011b bude cht\u00edt n\u011bkdo rejt, a\u0165 to sam\u00e9 ud\u011bl\u00e1 i v r\u00e1mci Marvelovek a Tarantinov\u00fdch film\u016f. A rozhodn\u011b se nebudu m\u00fdlit, \u017ee kdyby onen posledn\u011b jmenovan\u00fd pro sebe vyb\u00edral z t\u00e9to m\u00e9 b\u00e1snick\u00e9 sb\u00edrky, vybral by si pr\u00e1v\u011b tuhle ,D\u00e1mu v posmrtn\u00e9m\u00b4, nebo\u0165 ta n\u00e1sil\u00edm p\u0159\u00edmo \u010di\u0161\u00ed.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eHmm, zrovna tento re\u017eis\u00e9r se pro mnoh\u00e9 stal doslova kultovn\u00ed osobnost\u00ed a jeho obdivovatel\u00e9 na n\u011bj nedaj\u00ed dopustit.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eNo, v\u00fdborn\u011b, tak\u017ee vedle feministek jsem si je\u0161t\u011b ke v\u0161emu znep\u0159\u00e1telil cel\u00fd Hollywood,\u201c posteskne si Martin, i kdy\u017e tentokr\u00e1t to z jeho \u00fast vyzn\u00edv\u00e1 s trochou toho sarkasmu.<\/p>\n<p><b>Ona a On<\/b><\/p>\n<p>*Z po\u010d\u00e1tku se pozitivn\u011b vyv\u00edj\u00ed alespo\u0148 z\u00e1v\u011bre\u010dn\u00e1 b\u00e1se\u0148, uzav\u00edraj\u00edc\u00ed \u017eivotn\u00ed strasti bezejmenn\u00e9ho mal\u00ed\u0159e. S n\u00ed p\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00ed dal\u0161\u00ed zaj\u00edmav\u00e1 osoba a to v pod\u00e1n\u00ed bezejmenn\u00e9 here\u010dky, s n\u00ed\u017e mal\u00ed\u0159 pro\u017e\u00edv\u00e1 bou\u0159liv\u00fd milostn\u00fd vztah. Nech\u00e1v\u00e1m znovu na Martinovi, jak se k tomu vyj\u00e1d\u0159\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eDal\u0161\u00ed d\u016fkaz o tom, jak kouzeln\u00e9 m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt psan\u00ed, kdy\u017e se do n\u011bj pak u\u017e nezasahuje. V\u016fbec nevad\u00ed, \u017ee \u010dten\u00e1\u0159 ani j\u00e1 s\u00e1m nezn\u00e1me jm\u00e9no on\u00e9 d\u00e1my. Pr\u00e1v\u011b naopak, pokud bych ho do textu dodate\u010dn\u011b za\u0159adil, ztratil by pro m\u011b osobn\u00ed kouzlo. Nav\u00edc ten n\u00e1zev b\u00e1sn\u011b &#8211; ,Ona a On\u00b4 &#8211; ten jednozna\u010dn\u011b mluv\u00ed za v\u0161e. Ucelen\u00e9mu p\u0159\u00edb\u011bhu to tak dod\u00e1v\u00e1 na jist\u00e9 n\u00e1padn\u00e9 magi\u010dnosti.. A tak to m\u00e1 b\u00fdt.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eP\u0159esto, m\u00e1 ona d\u00e1ma ve skute\u010dnosti inspirativn\u00ed z\u00e1klad v n\u011bjak\u00e9 \u017een\u011b skute\u010dn\u00e9?\u201c ned\u00e1 mi to takto nezeptat se.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eAno, to m\u00e1. Nebojte, znovu v\u00e1s pot\u011b\u0161\u00edm a nebudu v\u00e1s tolik nap\u00ednat.\u201c Martin obratem vyhled\u00e1 p\u0159\u00edslu\u0161n\u00fd obr\u00e1zek, na n\u011bm\u017e se vyj\u00edm\u00e1 p\u016fvabn\u00e1 brunetka. \u201e\u00dadajn\u011b je to Slovenka a jmenuje se Nat\u00e1lie. Pravda, na postar\u0161\u00ed d\u00e1mu v letech rozhodn\u011b nevypad\u00e1, ale na listu pap\u00edru je p\u0159ece mo\u017en\u00e9 \u00fapln\u011b v\u0161echno, tedy i obelst\u00edt zub \u010dasu.\u201c<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eHmm, v\u00e1\u017en\u011b moc p\u011bkn\u00e1,\u201c mus\u00edm uznat i j\u00e1. A z\u00e1rove\u0148 s t\u00edm si uv\u011bdomuji, jak je pro spisovatele d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 m\u00edt pr\u00e1v\u011b ony \u017eiv\u00e9 p\u0159edobrazy, a \u017ee zde svoji roli rovn\u011b\u017e sehr\u00e1v\u00e1 i to, jak\u00fd si k nim utvo\u0159\u00ed sv\u016fj osobn\u00ed vztah a n\u00e1zorov\u00fd postoj.<\/p>\n<p>*\u201eAno, i to pro m\u011b coby pisatele m\u00e1 neocenitelnou hodnotu,\u201c souhlas\u00ed Martin. \u201eMimochodem, kdy\u017e jsem tuto b\u00e1se\u0148 sepisoval, rovn\u011b\u017e jsem neznal skute\u010dn\u00e9 jm\u00e9no dan\u00e9 here\u010dky. 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