Od: "Isaac Bromberg" Komu: Předmět: ZetaTalk Exposed - An analyse of the site - Hoax or Is the truth out there? Datum: 28. února 2003 0:15 =========================================================================== ZetaTalk Exposed - An analyse of the site - Hoax or Is the truth out there? =========================================================================== At first please apologize my broken english because english is not my native language. I will try to write as good as I can but please have mercy with my english. Thanks :) The ZetaTalk hysteria appeared again on internet these days after the information about comet C/2002 V1 NEAT was spreaded into internet audience. And when the weird SOHO images from 17.February to 19.February were released and after then, the SOHO was suddenly stoped by NASA, the ZetaTalk (Planet X) hysteria got a new fuel into the fire. I assume that everyone who will read further had done the homework and know the stories of our days. Like New World Order, Nibiru, Illuminati, WTC 911, Magick symbolism of some numbers, etc... Because I don't like to repeat all the facts again. There are other places for that. So let's move straight to the point of my article: Will there be cataclysm event around 15.May 2003 or not? Is Zetatalk just a excellent hoax or real message that should warn us about the upcoming event? Majority of people (70% by the poll at skepticalmind.com) think that ZetaTalk is just a hoax, or that Nancy Lieder is a sick person who need urgent medical help. Well, there are only two possibilities: The event described by ZetaTalk will happen on around date 15.May 2003 or will not. If ZetaTalk it's a hoax then we must understand that this hoax is running over 8 years now! And we must understand what this really mean! There is no other such long internet hoax. And there was no such longtime hoax before. ZetaTalk is very unique in this! ZetaTalk from the start stating the same informations. Their web pages got only some minor changes thru the years. Check http://www.archive.org for older versions of ZetaTalk. --------------------------------------------------------------- SCENARIO 1A - ZETATALK = HOAX - BUT THE 5/15 EVENT WILL BE REAL --------------------------------------------------------------- It is really possible that one person should have so much impact on the internet community? It is possible that one person can run such web site for 8 years, making IRC sessions and spreading the panic into the public without harm and without problems? In my country we have here a criminal law that is called "catastrophic startler propagation" and person who is doing this may be sentenced and jailed for 3 years atleast. If website like Nancy's ZetaTalk existed in my country with the same informations like it has today in USA, without a disclaimer - that will state something like: "this is all just fun" or "the website is only for studying purpose" then I'm sure Nancy will be in jail for long years, in my country, because the startler criminal law is a common used law here. ZetaTalk.com doesn't have a disclaimer. ZetaTalk.com looks like serious site. ZetaTalk.com is property of Troubled Times, Inc. which is: "...a public benefit Nonprofit Corporation dedicated to educating the public..." (http://www.zetatalk.com). Troubled Times Inc. rate ZetaTalk.com as serious site. It is NOT a fun site or conspiracy site or other site with disclaimer. No such thing there. Well I really don't understand how is possible that Nancy is still free and not in jail right now. I'm not familiar with United States law so I don't know if there exist such startler law like in my country. Anyway I think there is other explanation that can be close to the truth. ZetaTalk is not a project of single person. As I stated before I don't believe one person with few friends can handle such project for 8 years. Maybe you noticed I used word 'project'. We can call this "Project ZetaTalk". Guess who like such weird projects? Who is only capable of doing something like ZetaTalk? Who is capable to care of the Project for 8 years? Who is able to run Project like ZetaTalk so smooth from beginning to end? Who is above the law and have no worries about hackers and security because they own the best IT experts? Just try the google for "Zetatalk hacked". There was no single successful hack of Zetatalk for 8 years. Sites like Yahoo, CNN and Microsoft were hacked in recent years. But Zetatalk nothing, zero. Website skepticalminds.com estimate that Zetatalk.com can have over 140 000 hits per month. I think the real number will be much higher. Sites with much lower traffic getting hacked. But not Zetatalk.com. The website security at Zetatalk.com is excellent. I'm sure everybody now getting the idea who can be in reality beyond the "Project ZetaTalk". The only power who have such resources for such project is the U.S. Secret Government know to many of us as The Illuminati. Yes that guys who also orchestrated the WTC Hollywood-like event at 9/11. They have a Part II for us ready at 5/15. If Illuminati are behind ZetaTalk then it's looks logic to me that on 15. May 2003 they will fulfill their Prime Directive No.7 of their NWO plan. The quote of Illuminati Prime Directive 7: "The population of planet earth must be reduced to 3 billion and maintained at approximately that number." (http://oneworldorder.org) ------------------------------------------------------------------ SCENARIO 1B - ZETATALK = HOAX - AND THERE WILL BE NO EVENT ON 5/15 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Another explanation for Project ZetaTalk - if there will be no major cataclysms around 5/15/03 then ZetaTalk was a perfect calculated disinfo by Illuminati with a Deep Impact into our minds. Let's imagine there will be mass panic before 5/15 this year but nothing will happen later. Life will goes on as usual. No Planet X this year. And after this scenario: Do you think if a real cataclysm will be heading to us someday in the future and we will get warnings like ZetaTalks somebody will be listening to such warnings again? I think not! Maybe this is the real purpose of the Project ZetaTalk - to depreciate such warnings in the future when the real event will come. Nobody will listen next time. Nobody want to be a double fool. -------------------------------- ILLUMINATI SYMBOLISM IN ZETATALK -------------------------------- I just noticed I used the sentence "Deep Impact" just few words ago. Well let's give it a shot. We all know that Illuminati LOVES symbolism. They gave us enough proofs how they like to play with numbers and symbols in the 911 event. Well just for case let's look at ZetaTalk and we will specialize in symbols right now: Deep Impact a nice movie directed by Mimi Leder. The official leader of ZetaTalk is Nancy Lieder. ZetaTalk began on January 19, 1995. (January=1) 1+1+9 = 11 The Pole Shift event should hit us on 15. May 2003. (May=5) 1+5+5 = 11 The movie Deep Impact had premiere in USA on 8. May 1998. (May=5) 8+5 = 13 ZetaTalk.com domain was created on 11-Sep-1995. Isn't that a little weird ? The probability that this is just a pure coincidence is 0.3% (Check whois info at http://www.domainbank.com) Nancy have much of the live shows at Art Bell. It is rumoured that Art Bell is a government owned dis-info station. In the Deep Impact movie: When Jenny Lerner is looking up "ELE" on the Internet, the ad banners on the right-hand side shows ads: "The Wave of the Future" and "You've got some ocean coming". In the Deep Impact movie: When Marcus Wolf is trying to send email about the approaching comet, we see the first few entries in his e-mail inbox. One of the messages have the subject line "101 Mir jokes". One of the NASA officials in the "Deep Impact" movie is played by Gerry Griffin, who is a former NASA flight director. Griffin presided over the Apollo 12 mission and later became director of the Johnson Space Center in Houston. On 15. May are these interesting hollidays situated: - International Day of Families (UN) - St. Dympna's Day (patron of the insane, asylums, insanity) - Never Turn Your Back on the Ocean Day - Israeli National Day - Cold Sophie's Day (5th Ice Saint) - Relive Your Past By Listening to the First Music You Ever Bought Day 15. May is Judgment Day, according to Anabaptist Hans Huth (1527) Anabaptist Hans Huth predicted 15. May 1527 to be final day of judgment, fortunately, when things didn't come down the way he expected, he had the prescience to postpone it to 1529. 15. May 1969 Ronald Reagan said "If there has to be a bloodbath then let's get it over with". 15. May 2003 is planned premiere of movie Matrix 2 "Matrix Reloaded" -------------------------------------------------------------- SCENERIO 2 - ZETATALK IS REAL - AND THE 5/15 EVENT WILL HAPPEN -------------------------------------------------------------- This is the scenario that majority of people still doesn't believe in. Mostly nobody believe because the "proofs" and statements from Zetatalk are very vague. In a ZetaTalk way I will list here CONs and PROs I see in their website: CONs - Things that doesn't favour Zetatalk: ------------------------------------------- - According to Nancy'S IRC session from 22.February the Earth rotation should already be slowing and the Sunset and Sunrise should occur on a different times as usual, and the difference should be more than 10 minutes yet. Well this is NOT TRUE. Atleast not yet (26.February). The Sun is rising and seting as it should be. I did some sightings and I compared it with newspapers and with my astronomy software and there is NO DELAY in Sunrise or Sunset. - The ZetaTalk website from 1996 state that PoleShift may occur on date May 5, 2000. But Nancy vision still descripts 2003 as the year of the change. So there is certain incorrectness with the final date and year. Or is Nancy doing the same thing like Hans Huth? - The date May 15, 2003 first time appeared at the website in Jan 2002. - Coordinates of Planet X from 1997 RA 4.29741 Dec 9.96621 on March 3, 2003. But on current website they are: RA 4.21791 Dec 11.75342 on Mar 02, 2003. PROs - Things that favour ZetaTalk so they may be right: -------------------------------------------------------- - They state that Planet X will be visible by naked eye 7 weeks before the whole event. What is the reason to state this? If they are hoax it will be better for them to state only one date. A usual hoaxer will state just "End of the World will be at 5/15/03" and nothing more. Really think about it! Why to state that Planet X will be visible and ruin the whole hoax before the final date. - At http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p06.htm you can read about a comet that will predict the arrival of Planet X. There is big coincidence with the current comet C/2002 V1 NEAT. You can verify thru archive.org that this same text is there from 1996. - Global warming and more earthquakes every day. They have a nice website about this issues at http://www.shift2003.com - Strange Solar activity for the last years. Search google for this. There are lots of pages about this phenomenom. Use keywords like: SOHO, activity, strange, anomaly. - As Planet X passes through our Solar system it interacts with other planets. When Planet X passed near Jupiter the result can be gravity wave. (http://elfrad.com/gravitywave.htm) -------------------------- ZETATALK - THE CONCLUSION: -------------------------- In this brief report I found out that Zetatalk is not an ordinary hoax. Zetatalk is a valid source that is used to manipulate (conditioning) the public. Zetatalk was created with a real aim. For information or dis-information purpose. All depends on which SCENARIO is the truth. Conclusion: ZetaTalk is not a Hoax in a common sense of that word. Scenario 1A - Source of website: Illuminati Reason: Prepare us for WTC-like event Part II. Scenario 1B - Source of website: Illuminati Reason: To disinform the public for future real events. Scenario 2 - Source of website: Zetas and Nancy Reason: To really warn us about Planet X. It's up to you what you choose and what you will believe in. I think everybody will favour the Scenario 1B. That looks the most real. Yet. But when I looking at the current world political situation and plus there is the strong Illuminati symbolism used in "Project ZetaTalk" then I afraid that in reality the SCENARIO 1A is the real reason of ZetaTalk.com website. Well, we all will see soon. Signed: Isaac Bromberg, 26. February 2003 Notice: Please feel free to spread this article worldwide. But do not modify. You are only allowed to correct the spelling bugs. I am sure there are some. Email: isaac_bromberg@mail.ru --------------------------------------------------------------------------------